Well, aren't ya'll bright rays of sunshine with your talk of death, dying, and disease. 🙂 So smokers be kind to those around you and non-smokers don't get in a smoker's face and tell them what to do. I would bet my bottom dollar you have something that you are not doing right and could be told what to do as well.

I have to admit, I am against the helicopters flying around residences as well. I lived in Frenchman's Bay area of STT and their two tours a day always seemed to include a five second hover above my home. Just long enough to wake up the baby, blow over my antenae and generally annoy all the wildlife around me. Maybe that is why I preferred the nice rainy days. Much quieter I must say. Oh well, there will always be people who only care about their own enjoyment at the expense of everyone else. Maybe I will skip nap time and take my kids to eat at a nice restaurant while they are incredibly cranky just to even out the annoying factor to the other side. 😛 (Evil I know...)

Teresa

Teresa,
Who makes the decision on (you have something that you are not doing right) whats wrong. and how it's "told" what to do.

I stumbled on this rather ugly exchange by accident. It is sad to hear people beat up on each other. Smoking really isn't the issue. Most smokers already know it isn't the smartest thing to do. And whats all this jingoistic drum beating and blaming California for everything? Is it some kind of symbol? I don't get it?

all I hear is anger.here. This is suppose to be a website about getting away from it all in the beautiful Virgin Islands. Not screaming irrationally about how bad California is. Duh..California is a huge state with over 30 million people that is about as diverse as any place in the world. No nazi conspiracy among the general population.(but maybe back in DC?)

some of you need to get a tin foil cap to protect against the Californians.

peacefull person,
You were doing real good till The "(but maybe back in DC? and the tin foil cap), I think you still have time to edit.

obviously too long ago.....and looking forward to being there in Feb. I'm just tired of a handful of people trying to dictate everything we do in this country. We all are allowed to make decisions for ourselves but it seems as of lately some group or some individual is trying to take all our rights away. It all comes down to personal choice and if I choose to drink then so be it, if I choose to go into a smoking establishment then again that's my choice, nobody is forcing me to be in that establishment but why should anyone tell me what I can't do when it comes to something that is perfectly legal be it smoking, drinking, or whatever. As long as it's legal is my choice to do it! If you don't like smoke(ers) than do go where they are, simple as that!

Thank God they don't allow smoking on airliners anymore.
Sure was an unpleasant way to start a vacation, especially since you couldn't
get away from it if you tried.

I too, congradulate former smokers for quitting. I'm sure your significant others
find you much sweeter to KISS!!!!

These days it's a whole lot easier not to smoke than it is to smoke. It's getting harder and harder to continue to smoke. No sense whining about it. It's an idea whose time has finally come and here's no turning back. Most smokers would be only too glad if they didn't smoke. The hard thing in all of this is actually stopping.

An interesting question is what does it finally take for a smoker to be ready to stop. Once they do, there are all manner of products and supports. But what does it actually take for someone to be ready to commit to dealing with a powerful addiction.

I'm really grateful that I was able to successfully stop. I'm also grateful that I didn't have to pay too high a price with my health. I suspect that I would really despise myself if I was still smoking. And having gone through what I had to go through in order to stop, I certainly know that it's very, very hard. Looking back on it, I'm sometimes puzzled that i let it go on so long, but when we're in the grips of an addiction, we're not very clear. But now, there's nothing that would get me to pick up a cigaret again. It's a terrible addiction. (There is the issue of the tobacco companies and the state of the souls of the execs , but we can save that for talk radio).

Weary,
This is the second post on the same thread, you have said the same thing. This could be health related. But congrats on the no smoking.

I say we gather up all the dolphins and put 'em in a prison at a nude beach and blow smoke in their faces while we drive jet skis...

East Ender,
HA,HA, are you from NJ?LOL

I have one parting comment before I bid this thread farewell.

I am not against smokers, I am against the right to smoke in public places. All of the recent scientific studies support the fact that smoking is harmful to the smoker and harmful to the people around them. I support your right to kill yourself in your own home, hell if you want to stick lit cigarettes up your butt thats your business. I just don't want you doing it at the table next to me in a restaurant.

As time goes by we learn new things about the cause of diseases. Years ago manufacturing plants were allowed to spew toxic smoke from there smokestacks. No longer. I assume that the smokers among us think that since this is a free country these plants should continue to be allowed to discharge toxic smoke into the air. Well cigarettes are the smokestacks of today. I wonder if any of the smokers among us really think that smoking is harmless and that their actions are not harmful to the people around them.

The right to smoke has been declining for years and has disappeared completely in many parts of the country. The laws will only get stricter. Why? Because it is harmful to the people around you, just like the toxic smokestacks of the old manufacturing plants.

And just like it was not acceptable for the manufacturing plants to say "if you don't like our toxic smoke then move to a different town". That will also not be an acceptable answer for smoking in public places.

Get used to it, its coming and I support the changes.

Lizard or whoever cares,

I was referring to someone actually confronting a smoker on a beach and telling them what to do. I don't care what you do to your own body, and really no one should, but if what you do affects others, that's where decisions have to be made. Why don't they just let the establishment decide if they want to be smoking or nonsmoking? Profit will dictate which way they should go. I don't think that a person should decide that my local pub has to be a non smoking establishment if they don't frequent the place. What is the point? I don't care if you drink either, but if you drink and drive, that is where I have issue. I think that is how a lot of people feel. Why does it have to be all or nothing?

Teresa

Teresa,
You just don't get it. You couldn't even address a name as simple as Lizard without an attitude. Have a good night!

Lizard,

What are you 12? I don't have an attitude, I really don't care nearly as much as you. Great, now I have to go read all of your posts to figure out if you are serious or not and than decide how best to make fun of you. I was addressing you since you asked me a question and instead of listing everyone elses names as well, I just put 'whoever cares' because I don't care nor know who cares about what I write. I am soooo glad you care though. Now I haven't been reading all your posts lately, so let me play catch up and then we can argue or talk smack later. Geeez..

Teresa

Didn't think Teresa had an attitude.

If you want to declare yourself De Facto Honorary Mayor of one VI island, Lizard, you could possibly act more mayoral, (I'm wondering if they really should have an election, as that kind of sounds scary).
As far as Weary is concerned, I don't mind a repeat now and then, since he doesn't speak up that
much. At least when he does it, it's entertaining.

East Ender.
Please don't spray those captured dolphins with lysol, the smoke is bad enough!! HA

Lizard,

I reread this entire thread from beginning to end. And then I read it again, because my little brain got sidetracked a few times. Anyway, of everyone, I think I agree with you the most. So, either you think I am someone else, misread my post, or are in love with me, whatever it is, I don't think we are arguing or attitude throwing. Just my humble opinions.

I don't smoke much any more, never was addicted, but I do like a nice cigar or clove cig once in a while. I am respectful and wouldn't be smoking near people and always clean up my beach area. My kids are used to me having them pick up trash (ours or others) on the beach as we leave.

I think if someone did come up to me and told me to put out my cig, I would be tempted to put it out in their eye as I consider them more annoying than my smoking, but now it is premeditated so I would just flatten their tires. (Kidding!) Actually, I am with Promo on this as I would definitely blow smoke in their face. Second hand smoke doesn't kill you if you are around it once in a while. I can list a hundred things that could kill you with just one contact, but that would take all day and my fingers don't like to type that much. Google it yourself. So, my rambling must end. I will go back to stirring up the K.C. fans...

Teresa

Teresa,
You know you would put it out in their eye!! Ha!!
Seriously folks, if someone is smoking out in the open air, mind your own
friggin' business. I'm not a smoker, but I'm not the cigarette police either.

Teresa,
I guess toxic smokestacks are OK too as long as they are out in the open.

"There is no risk-free level of secondhand smoke exposure. Even brief exposure can be dangerous."
What part of that statement is not clear? Do you believe that the CDC is lying to us?

Read the facts, rely on scientific facts not anecdotal information.
http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/Factsheets/SecondhandSmoke.htm

Hey Lizard

Thanks for catching that I'd repeated some of what I'd said in a previous post. I really don't take this stuff too seriously, so I guess I wasn't paying attention. I'm glad that we do have someone like you aboard who does take it seriously and is willing to put in the time to actually keep track of what different posters have said. It's a really valuable service. Keep at it. I'm sure that others here recognize your contribution, too. Your hard work will pay off someday.

Yeah but,
She's really gettin' cranky. So watch yourself, Weary.
Now, what was that about noise pollution?? Wack, wack, wack.