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silentfaith
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Just heard on the radio that a travel warning was in effect due to safety. Should I cruise there and stay on the ship?

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Posted : July 14, 2010 9:13 am
Connie
(@connie)
Noble Member

Please don't stay on the ship. There is so much to see and do on STT. We've been going there for years and we drive all over the Island.

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Posted : July 14, 2010 9:38 am
Xislandgirl
(@xislandgirl)
Reputable Member

I just did a quick search and can find nothing on a travel warning.

Enjoy STT, it is a beautiful island with much to see. You would be missing out on so much if you were to stay on the ship

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Posted : July 14, 2010 9:42 am
STT Resident
(@stt-resident)
Island Expert

In light of the recent and tragic shooting in the area of Coki beach on St Thomas, some of the cruise lines are temporarily curtailing their shore excursions to Coki but there is absolutely no all-encompassing travel warning in effect. Enjoy your day here!

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Posted : July 14, 2010 10:56 am
kathyzhere
(@kathyzhere)
Eminent Member

I would reply with, "that is a question only you can answer." Hope you enjoy yourself with whatever you choose!

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Posted : July 15, 2010 10:14 pm
blujahz
(@blujahz)
Estimable Member

as pointed out over the years - with ever increasing gun violence in the USVI - you would be better off looking elsewhere than VINOW to ask this question - sorry - but sadly true - this is a vacation board and not a board to find out about the dark side of the islands. there are plenty of on-line newspapers to find this info.

also - hope that you never need police help while visiting the islands - many (not all) are either corrupt or could care less about actually doing real police work that involves effort.

btw - we go to STJ yearly - and love it - but (like anyplace) you need to excercise good judgement and not put yourself in a bad situation

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Posted : July 16, 2010 5:43 pm
ReepingWay
(@reepingway)
Eminent Member

I've gone to Coki every trip to the VI for years and years. While Magens will give you a calmer beach and less noise, Coki can be fun. There are plenty of hustlers and hucksters on the beach, hawking beads, drinks, whatever, and it is a bit of a noisy zoo atmosphere. But never have I not felt physically safe there. It is a place where I like to keep my eyes on my belongings which is not so much the case at Magens and not at all at Sapphire or Secret Harbor. Like all places, bad stuff can happen and this terrible gang shooting could have been anywhere.......I hope by now the police on this small island have identified and arrested the shooters. Stay out of dark alleys! But do enjoy the island.

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Posted : July 16, 2010 6:49 pm
STT Resident
(@stt-resident)
Island Expert

In answer to the last poster's hope, the alleged shooter turned himself into the VIPD yesterday and is being held without bail..

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Posted : July 16, 2010 7:38 pm
sherban
(@sherban)
Estimable Member

I wouldn't stay on the ship. St Thomas has few incidents that involve tourists...unfortunately there are rare ones...and I'm sorry to hear of those.

Enjoy your trip.

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Posted : July 17, 2010 12:46 am
East Ender
(@east-ender)
Island Expert

Just to make a point here...silentfaith made a hit-and-run post about a "travel warning." S/he has not been back to back up this statement. No one else has heard of any "travel warning." People can say just about anything they want on the internet and someone, somewhere will believe it. Get your B.S. detectors out folks!

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Posted : July 17, 2010 8:50 am
kathyzhere
(@kathyzhere)
Eminent Member

I agree with your point East Ender ... I figured right from the moment that I read the comment, that it was just to cause a "stir"!

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Posted : July 17, 2010 2:21 pm
Concerned Islander
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New Member

I agree with everyone else that you should definitely get out and see all the beauty that the island has to offer.

That being said, we as St Thomas residence cannot ignore the escalating violence that is taking place. I am a business owner that has a mix of local and tourist clientele. We are a small business but employ mostly local youth. I cannot describe the type and amount of frustration and sorrow from both the customers and employees. Something needs to be done to end the violence that goes back and forth between these warring young "gangs". Unfortunately, I think we must be honest with ourselves about this, so that some kind of action can take place to stop it. I do not want to hurt tourism, but there will be no tourism if this persists.
I didn't want to post this. This is my first post, but long time reader. I feel passionately that something has to change. I hope all that want a safe and prosperous St Thomas for all, do as well.

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Posted : July 18, 2010 12:00 am
RM
 RM
(@rm)
Estimable Member

have you ever visited Detroit? If so you will know that this one incident is so very random that it should not keep anyone away. I think often times folks post here just to get the response.

go and enjoy

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Posted : July 18, 2010 11:47 am
gtmeier
(@gtmeier)
New Member

My wife and I just got back from 10 days on St. Thomas (July 1 to 10). We stayed at a cottage near Hull Bay. We drove all over the island and visited a different beach every day. Went to Charlotte Amalie during the daytime and at night, ditto Frenchtown. At no time did we feel like we were in any danger, quite the opposite - we found everyone to be very hospitable. We took the usual precautions and didn't go wandering down dark alleys at midnight (gee, same precaution I would take at home).

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Posted : July 18, 2010 12:52 pm
stm11
(@stm11)
New Member

Stay on the boat!!! Just got back from St. Thomas (fortunately). I was a victim of crime at Coki Beach just days before the deaths of the 14 y/o and local man. I have the police report to prove my incident. As a matter of fact, I was actually planning to either move or buy a vacation home there, but no longer!!! My family and I will never visit US VI again. Sure you are at risk on the Ship or sitting in your living room. But going to St. Thomas, specifically Coki Beach is the equivalent as jumping out of an in flight airplane without a parachute. You might live, but the likehood is you are gonna die. Word to the wise, after I was a victim, I stayed my blank at the resort, practically in my room. What a way to spend thousands on a family vacation only to be confined to your room? But I am alive and warning others. Your life is at risk in St. Thomas as a tourist or otherwise!!!

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Posted : July 18, 2010 3:03 pm
East Ender
(@east-ender)
Island Expert

Welcome to the forum, stm11! We look forward to more of your illuminating posts. Ya did good for a newbie!;)

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Posted : July 18, 2010 3:28 pm
emtjen
(@emtjen)
Trusted Member

STM11

I THINK YOU NEED TO SEEK PROFESSIONAL HELP, SERIOUSLY! You were robbed, not raped!

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Posted : July 19, 2010 1:22 pm
BillR
(@billr)
Eminent Member

My wife and I just returned from our 8th trip to STT. We have rented a car every year and have traveled through out the Island. We have never had a problem. That being said we don't go into Town at night and are usually around the Red Hook Area most of the Days. We love our trips and visiting the Islands.

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Posted : July 23, 2010 1:50 pm
RM
 RM
(@rm)
Estimable Member

I wonder a loud if "stm" stands for "Small town Mind", just wondering.

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Posted : July 23, 2010 4:04 pm
toes in the sand
(@toes-in-the-sand)
Reputable Member

RM wrote:
I wonder a loud if "stm" stands for "Small town Mind", just wondering.

And your problem with small towns is???

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Posted : July 23, 2010 4:09 pm
STT Resident
(@stt-resident)
Island Expert

"Small town minds" aren't necessarily limited minds although I see where RM is coming from. Poster stm11 has already told his/her story in another thread on this forum. Going against frequently posted advice, the group decided to stash all their "valuables" in the trunk of their rental car while enjoying a day at Coki and returned to the vehicle to find the trunk broken into and everything gone. He/she is naturally upset but did something that is at the top of the "don't do" list for visitors, paid the price and then decided to hole themselves up in their hotel for the duration of their stay and vow never to return here.

If stm11 had done even some basic research, the answer to something as simple as "where to put your valuables while on a beach" would have been way high up there as it comes up all the time. First, when you're here on vacation there is no need to schlepp your "valuables" on beach trips. As a reminder, waterproof packs you can swim and snorkel with come in all shapes and sizes to fit a camera, a credit card, money and keys. What other "valuables" might there be which one needs to take to the beach? Leave the Hope diamond carefully stashed at home.

stm11 alleges that he/she was also considering moving here or purchasing a vacation home here prior to this incident - but I rather doubt that, with all due respect, otherwise he/she would have better knowledge of simple basics.

stm11, I really do hope you find the right place for either your retirement or vacation home. Good luck!

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Posted : July 23, 2010 9:32 pm
A Davis
(@a-davis)
Honorable Member

STT Resident wrote: Leave the Hope diamond carefully stashed at home!

oh, that's got to be the line of the day... :@)

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Posted : July 24, 2010 2:58 am
vidiving
(@vidiving)
New Member

I read your original post about you and your family putting all of your valuables in your trunk out in plain site where everyone around could see. Now, I don't do that when I go to the gym every day in the good old US and I live in a totally different environment.

You were a bit foolish and somewhat unworldly. Sorry but those actions, and your staying in your room for the rest of your vacation because YOU made a silly mistake, are just crazy.

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Posted : July 25, 2010 8:40 am
bstagg
(@bstagg)
New Member

On the News last night: Two shot early in the morning followed by a 15 year shot last night in the back and the chest. That was in my city of Cincinnati, a place that I feel safe in my neighborhood anytime and any part of the city during the day. Go to St. Thomas it's safer!

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Posted : July 25, 2010 9:10 am
StCroix
(@stcroix)
Active Member

ReepingWay wrote:
I've gone to Coki every trip to the VI for years and years. While Magens will give you a calmer beach and less noise, Coki can be fun. There are plenty of hustlers and hucksters on the beach, hawking beads, drinks, whatever, and it is a bit of a noisy zoo atmosphere. But never have I not felt physically safe there. It is a place where I like to keep my eyes on my belongings which is not so much the case at Magens and not at all at Sapphire or Secret Harbor. Like all places, bad stuff can happen and this terrible gang shooting could have been anywhere.......I hope by now the police on this small island have identified and arrested the shooters. Stay out of dark alleys! But do enjoy the island.

One of the nice things about St Croix is that we have no "hustlers and hucksters" on our beaches. It's just not done here.

That said, we do have the occasional break-in of a tourist's car. Tourists carry the kind of things the bad guys want: cash and electronics. Any where you vacation, your rental car is a blinking sign. Just because you're on vacation doesn't mean you should leave your common sense at home.

I've been all over the Caribbean, and on every island, you have to be careful where you go and when you go there. The same is true in Europe these days. Just remember: you are NOT in Kansas anymore.

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Posted : July 27, 2010 9:40 pm
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