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(@gatorfan)
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Hey all...I wanted to post this report earlier, but things have been a little hectic since we returned so here goes...Thank you all for your help, information and advice...it proved to be very useful while we were there and is appreciated...

Sunday 10/2 : Off on our Honeymoon!! (Our first trip to the USVI...both of our parents had honeymooned on St. Thomas decades ago so we decided to keep the tradition alive.) We flew AA from Florida to St. Thomas...not a bad trip. Even the brief layover in San Juan was not too bad and we found a couple good shops there to while away some of the time. We planned on hitting a few of them on the return trip but more on that later.

We arrived in St. Thomas and went to the desk for the Westin as we had planned to take their private ferry to the resort. They advised us to get our luggage and hurry to the taxi as they were holding the boat for us and another couple who came in on our flight. We were whisked away and boarded the vessel for what became one of the more frightening parts of the trip. Apparently the captain felt the need to make up time. The ride was supposed to take 45 minutes...he did it in 25. Although a shorter trip sounds good, the full throttle approach and the boat never planing out was awful. Given the number of people getting seasick, the luggage flying all over the boat and the frightened faces of the passengers, it was clear no one enjoyed the trip. We were later told the water was rougher than usual due to weather and told by several people on the boat that despite several trips to the hotel they had never seen the trip that bad. As people left the boat many declined their rum punch as they had been sick. We even heard one person comment the captain of the vessel should "be arrested". We would not go that far, but we declined to ride the ferry again and the Westin refunded the price of the ferry. Interestingly on later days when the water was rough the Westin ferry took people to Red Hook rather than Charlotte Amalie.

The Westin grounds are beautiful. They are meticulously manicured. The rooms are adequate at best (not what you expect from a name brand like Westin). We were there on our Honeymoon and were hoping for something a little nicer. Without going into great detail, there were a number of maintenance problems in our room, but we put up with it for 5 days before we finally had enough and had to speak to a manager. Ultimately, the last manager we talked to was thoughtful and helpful and our concerns were addressed. I read SGP's review and noted we were in the same building (#15) during the same time. We had the same sink problem. (Our persistent puddle under the sink required a bath towel and needed to be fixed and we were not quickly moved but were moved eventually). Suffice to say, on a honeymoon you want everything perfect, and you expect a little more from a name brand like Westin (which I have never had a problem with before). Unfortunately, daily problems put a damper on a trip you want to be perfect.

Our first dinner was at the Westin...their Grille restaurant was good, but a little pricey. We ate there a couple times when the weather was bad or we didn't feel like traveling.

Monday 10/3:
Well for those of you following the weather it was not good this day. We rented our Jeep Liberty from O'Connor (on site at the Westin). They proved to be a good company and responsive to our needs when we had a flat. Their "parking lot" in Cruz Bay is tough to find and we didn't use it, but the people were nice and the car was good! We drove to Starfish Market (a Godsend and cheaper than the Westin's Mango Deli) to stock up on supplies for our mini-fridge. From there we drove around on the very wet roads...good thing we put it in 4WD. We encountered our first switchback just past Trunk Bay and saw a Wrangler unsuccessfully trying to do it in 2WD. Fortunately they did not hit us when they slid down the hill. (Good advice I learned here and FF&4WD GIVE PLENTY OF SPACE BETWEEN YOU AND THE CAR IN FRONT!!)

The beaches were deserted due to the weather, and we were just trying to get the lay of the island. We made it to Coral Bay and saw donkeys! We ate at Skinny Legs (one of our favorites) and despite the rain, had a good time. We drove all the way out to East End and turned around for the slippery drive home. We drove back to the Westin and lounged around and had dinner on site.

Tuesday 10/4:
More Rain. We decided to go to St. Thomas to shop. Took the ferry to Red Hook and a cab to Charlotte Amalie. Although 2 trips to St. Thomas and cabs are a little more expensive than the Westin Ferry, it was worth the extra money not to have to worry about seasickness or capsizing. The ferry ride, despite higher seas, was much better and a shorter trip than the Westin's boat.

We found a few good deals in Charlotte Amalie. We shopped up and down Main Street and some of the side streets. We bought a bunch of stuff. My wife loved the deals on perfume and a necklace. We ate lunch at the Green House. Not a bad burger, but not as good as Skinny Legs. We came back to the Westin and because the weather was worse, ate on site again. We noted a lot of water running off the hills onto the roads and decided better to stay home.

Wednesday 10/5:
Wow! The sun!!! St. John is pretty when it rains and is beautiful when the sun is out. We hit Hawksnest and Cinnamon. Beautiful! The water was cloudy, probably due to the "Northern Swells" and the fresh water runoff. Not great snorkeling, but beautiful beaches. Trunk was packed with multiple cruise ships in town so we skipped it. Parking there was difficult so we decided Cinnamon would be better.

We came back a little pinker than we left, but the sunscreen did its job. We shopped at Mongoose Junction and decided to hit Paradiso for dinner. We were the only ones there. Dinner was very nice! We had a great time and I would recommend the place.

Thursday 10/6:
Another beautiful day. My wife wanted to hang out by the pool, so we did. The Westin has a very nice pool, but they ran out of floats which surprised me given it was not high season. We ate lunch at their pool bar restaurant. We had a very nice server, and the food was better than I expected from a pool bar type place. We also saw our first Iguana. Now, we had been on the Island for 4 days and not seen one, but dang, once we saw one, they were everywhere!!!

We left after lunch to view Annaberg. Beautiful and tragic at the same time. The ruins are amazing and you really feel the history. We spent a couple hours there exploring. We also saw our first Mongoose at the ruins. We walked a part of the Leinster Bay trail, and would have walked to Waterlemon but we had been there so long we had run out of drinking water. It was humid on the trail with all the rain, and we both wanted to go farther, but knew we better turn around. All in all, the area is beautiful and definitely worth the trip.

We came back to Cruz Bay, shopped, and decided to eat someplace unique to the islands. We were told Sogo's was good for Island food, and we gave it a try. It was worth it. The food was very good. I wish I had written down what I ate, because I can't recall it now, but it was really tasty!

We came back and decided to stop at Starfish to buy some ice cream for our dessert.

Friday 10/7
We decided to head out early for Trunk Bay. We had been on the island for nearly a week and figured we could not miss it. It is a beautiful beach. There were no ships in St. Thomas so we were there with about 25 other people. We were among the first to arrive. I immediately jumped in, put on my fins and snorkeled the trail. How awesome! The water was a little cloudy and as I snorkeled out I saw a dark shape in the water, as I got closer, it was a turtle. I really wanted to see one and was so happy I did! My wife spotted a friendly stingray later in the day that wanted to swim around her feet. It was a great time. Even though there may be better places to snorkel, we had a great time. We were going to go on to some other beaches, but when we got to the car, we realized a tire had a slow leak. We went back to the Westin and spoke to the people there who recommended we go to the Texaco (where O'Connor's main office is). We did and they fixed the flat quickly. Unfortunately it ended our beach day without hitting Maho and returning to Leinster Bay.

We went back to Coral Bay for dinner. We wanted to drive out to Salt Pond just to see the beach and maybe Ram's Head, but it was getting to be too late in the day. We saw the Salt Pond trail, but did not go to the beach. We also saw goats and donkeys along the way. That was a treat. When we finally decided to eat, we hit Island Blues. What a great place. Very laid back and comfortable. Good food and our server was very nice. After dinner we headed back to Cruz Bay. (Note: There are no gas stations in Coral Bay...if you are running really low like I was fill up before you leave Cruz Bay). We made it back with about 1/16th of a tank of gas left. (that was the only time we needed gas despite driving all over the place)

Saturday 10/8:
We finally ended up in a different room at the hotel. Because of the change of rooms, we spent some time moving, and decided to hit Cruz Bay again for shopping and drove around some more just to look around. We had reservations for Chateau Bordeaux for an early dinner. We drove up there as the weather was closing in. By the time we got to the restaurant, it was drizzling. The view was nice, but the weather did not help. Overall, I found it to be a decent restaurant, but a bit over-hyped. The service was average at best (I am being a little generous), although the food was maybe a little above average, but the combination of sevice and food was not quite worth the price. Although worth the trip for the view on a clear day (we saw the view the day before while driving), because of the service I don't know if I would highly recommend it.

Sunday 10/9:
We had to leave. Bummer. Bad weather again. We had a number of problems getting out of St. Thomas. Flight delayed...flight moved to Miami, etc. Because of the changes no shopping in San Juan airport, but at least we made it home safe and sound.

Although overall the island is beautiful, the problems we had with the hotel put a damper on things. I would go back in a heartbeat, hope for better weather and most probably stay someplace other than the Westin. Most of the people we met around the island (islanders and tourists alike) were very nice and polite. Amazing what a "good morning" or "good afternoon" will do to brighten your day or someone else's. I came back to Florida and said good morning to the check out person at the grocery store. They smiled, but looked at me like I was a little weird. Although there were some concerns posted here about the protest or march on 10/1 and events prior to that time we noticed no real problems.

Overall, it was a nice trip. The island is beautiful and worth a visit. Admittedly, one week, where the weather takes a few days from you is not enough. If you are looking for a resort you never leave this is not the place. There is so much to see and do outside of a hotel or resort grounds. Rent a car, and take an adventure. Don't worry about the driving on the left. Remember to "Keep your Shoulder to the Shoulder" (my wife had to remind me a couple times). Although there are times you feel like you are on the Big Thunder Mountain Jeep ride with all the hills and switchbacks, what you see it worth it! It is truly a beautiful place.

 
Posted : October 24, 2005 9:38 pm
 Pia
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Congratulations on your wedding 🙂 and glad you had a good time despite the weather. Just to let everyone know the gas station in Coral Bay is now up and running again, yeh 🙂

 
Posted : October 24, 2005 10:16 pm
(@StJohnTraveler)
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Thanks for the trip report...We got to St. John the day you left, and believe me you're lucky you didn't fly thru San Juan. We had a five hour delay getting to St. Thomas! Maybe next time try a villa for a completely different experience. The part about the Westin ferry cracked me up. It PASSED the Red Hook ferry we were on (despite the fact it left much later), came so close it caused a massive wake, and the waves drenched us aboard the ferry! Musta been the same driver you guys had. ha ha ha 🙂 Anyway, congrats on your marriage!
PS - We're Gators too!!!

 
Posted : October 25, 2005 7:15 am
(@inlovewithstjohn)
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Thanks for the report Gator. Congrats. Sorry to hear about the weather and the Westin. If you go back, try renting a villa....well worth it and NOT much more expensive than a resort. Most villas have killer views and many have pool/hot tubs. My wife and I spent out honeymoon on St John and are planning our 1st anniversary return trip...can't wait.

 
Posted : October 25, 2005 7:47 am
(@islandtimer)
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Congratulations on your wedding and for quickly adopting the right kind of attitude. Almost unbelievable stroke of bad luck with weather, indifferent hoteliers, flat tires, etc. A lot of people would have let it ruin their trip but it seems like you made the best of things. Give STJ another try, not during hurricane season and not at the Westin (which has changed hands more often than my first wife). You’re initiated!

 
Posted : October 25, 2005 5:06 pm
(@on-island-time)
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Congrats on your wedding. And ditto IslandTimer on "adopting the right attitude".

My wife and I were married in 1989 and since she had taken a lot of cruises I asked if she wanted to take a cruise for Our honeymoon, she said..."Are you nuts, It's hurricain season" so I said "OK were do you want to go?" she said..."How bout St.Thomas" I said..."OK" (remember "Hurricain season?"). Well off we go on Sept. 10th to St.Thomas, We stayed a the Sea Cliff Resort on Water Island, had a fantastic week (almost), great weather, toured all over STT, met some great people at Sea Cliff. THEN...this litte guy called "Hurricain Hugo" payed a visit and, we spent a second week at the Windward Passage rooming with another honeymoon couple we met on Water Island (lack of rooms and $) with no, running water, electricity, A/C, ice, cold drinks. I would have never thought chicken could be served in so many different ways (when we got home I tossed every chicken related item in the house).

Needless to say we decided to return to STT for our 10 year anniversary, when?...you guessed it...September, with no problems and have been returning every year since for two weeks. So you have to take the good with the bad and, so far, we've had more good then bad. Welcome to the "USVI Addiction Club" 🙂

9 days to go!!!!!!!! 🙂

 
Posted : October 25, 2005 6:20 pm
(@vtxcafe)
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Your trip sounds very simular to ours, we arrived on the 10th. Too bad you missed The Fish Trap, what a meal!! Also, of all the beaches I visited Watermelon was my favorite, well worth the walk.

We also stayed at the Westin, the stay was nice and our room was awsome. My only complaint was we stayed at building #26, on the rock bank there was a mop you could see off the stairs, we entire week that mop stayed there, no one picked it up our entire stay.

 
Posted : October 26, 2005 3:46 am
(@canoebase)
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I think if had bothered me that much, I'd have picked it up myself and scooted it over to a less-visible location!

 
Posted : October 26, 2005 9:52 am
(@vtxcafe)
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Yea, I would have if I had a tool that could reach it, it was on the rock wall and I could not reach it. I could have climbed up there but that is not my job.

 
Posted : October 26, 2005 10:32 pm
(@theislander)
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Nice report. Sorry to hear things weren't perfect for your special trip but glad you had a good time ;). Congrats!!

--Islander

 
Posted : October 27, 2005 11:00 am
(@gatorfan)
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Thank you all very much for the well wishes and congratulations. The otehr story about the Westin Ferry cracked me up. One thing my wife and I said after getting on the Red Hook ferry was that the captain of that boat knew how to drive (unlike the Westin's guy) Sorry to hear you got drenched! (By the way, St. John Traveler - you were probably on the plane we were supposed to fly out!! -- Oh...also - Go Gators!!) Also good to know the Coral Bay gas station is up and running. The people at Island Blues told us it had been shut down for a while. (Months I believe) As for our attitudes, dont get me wrong...we had our rough patches when things were going south. I know people could see steam rising from my head more than once! We're getting to the point we can laugh about some of it now, but there are still a few sore points. One way or the other, just glad I wasn't there for the Hugo type experience. Living in Florida I have seen my share of storms (including 3 in 6 weeks last year)and I do not think I would want to be anywhere down there after a storm.

I was thinking about the villa idea next time as well. We chose the Westin because of our budget and the fact I had some freebie points from staying at Sheratons, Westins etc for years. I think with a villa I might also want to be out closer to Coral Bay. I just liked the feel of Coral Bay better than Cruz Bay. Its funny how much more laid back Coral Bay seemed. Cruz Bay is nice, but when you are dealing with trying to put as much as is there into a space that size, you are going to feel a little cramped and crowded.

We're sorry we missed the Fish Trap. It was also ashame while we were there that Rhumb Lines and the Lime Inn were closed. We really wanted to try them out since they came so highly recommended here. Incidentally, a number of people there also mentioned both would be a great place to eat if open.

Gatorfan

 
Posted : October 29, 2005 7:14 am
(@woogawooga)
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Yum!!! Rhumb Lines!!! Got to be the best kept secret on the island. It's the first place we go to on the first day we're there. Then we make sure to go back again before we leave.

We'll be there for dinner on June 3rd, and I'm counting the days already!!

WW

 
Posted : November 1, 2005 6:45 pm
 CJ
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Try Estate Lindholm -- very quaint and owners are wonderful! Views are also great. Small hike down the hill to Cruz Bay -- my husband and I (even though we are in our 50's) are very athletic so the hike was not a proble. However -- at night it is very dark. Just grab a cab back up the hill -- $2 or $3! We spent our anniversary there. Rent a car and explore the island -- owners will furnish you with chairs, towels, coolers, etc.!

 
Posted : November 20, 2005 4:09 pm

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